I got a good deal on these so I tried them. They seemed to ride just fine and did fairly well in snow, rain, and on gravel. The only complaint I had is that I only got 37,000 miles on them and they are into the wear bars quite a bit. I am going to try the Lifeliner series and see how they do. I like Cooper Tires but was disappointed in the mileage. I do not drive aggressively but I do drive on a fair amount of gravel and I think that ate them up.