these tires came with my 2013 kia optima which i thought was a nice car. but i didnt like the way it would ride. too harsh and noisy. when the front tires wore out i replaced them with dunlop tires. the harsh ride and noise were greatly improved.even with the original nexens on the rear. i am a conservative driver and couldnt comment on handling in rain or snow.i estimate the nexens would have lasted 45000 miles if they were rotated. since they werent the fronts wore out about 30000.